XEurope compatibility

psilo
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XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:12 am

Hi,

i have problems using Heraklion together with XEurope3 extension. Problem seems to be the FlyTampa_Heraklion_1_overlays folder. If i put it together with my other overlays after xeurope3, the houses look like xeurope3 houses and some of them are placed in the Ocean. What I do see are (correct) roads.

If I put the folder in the load order BEFORE xeurope3, the custom FlyTampa houses are there, but roads are now missing.

Anyone fixed this?

Thx,
René
Yannis[flytampa]
Posts: 73

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by Yannis[flytampa] » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:56 am

I suppose you can use XEurope but only for the rest of +35+025 tile, except the area that is covered with our resample. The scenery area has its own network,trees,traffic,buildings etc. No textured roads, but traffic and lights are there as they should be.
The scenery mesh folder, contains the default overlays. So if you want Xeurope to be visible on the rest +35+025 tile, you should keep Xeurope's folders in scenery_packs.ini, below Heraklion's overlays, forests, and airport folders and above Heraklion's mesh folder.
psilo
Posts: 21

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:59 am

hi,

i think i already tried that but will verify later this day or next week.. the thing was that buildings were working, but there were no layered roads anymore (not textured roads).

does your package include any roads that should have been shown in heraklion? or is the photo below correct?
i fear that in the overlay folder you have buildings and roads, and one of both gets lost if I switch the load order..

here you go:
roadmissing.jpg
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load order (the xorganizer tool reflects the scenery_packs.ini load order, mesh is further below):
load order.JPG
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by the way: i just started moving my xp11 to a fresh nvme SSD and did not include any custom orthos for heraklion so far.. so this should all be your default setting, except xeurope3
Yannis[flytampa]
Posts: 73

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by Yannis[flytampa] » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:46 am

As you say, the ortho is missing in this photo. But, yes... there are no layered - textured roads over our scenery. Its a matter of taste.We don't like layered roads over an ortho, specially over non flattened areas or when there are a lot of turns, where its very difficult to follow exactly the ortho roads. So we prefer to make them invisible and leave the car traffic , lights, signs, traffic lights etc.
psilo
Posts: 21

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:56 am

hi,

ok so my screenshot should be "complete" in the case of the scope of the scenery? without generated roads no simulated traffic is possible.. but well suppose i can live without that.. so generating a better ortho will do the job...

just wanted to know if i am missing something or of it works as desired in the way it looks in the screenshot?

Bye,
René
Yannis[flytampa]
Posts: 73

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by Yannis[flytampa] » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:50 am

Of course there is custom traffic, facade buildings with the exact ortho footprints, trees (with the exact place for each tree on the ortho), custom lights. All this in the Heraklion's overlays folder. Its not present I believe in the screenshot ;)
psilo
Posts: 21

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:54 am

so my screenshot above does not "show the full truth"? it is now before xeurope in the load order. as you can see there are NO roads right now?!

i can try to deactivate every other addon next, but something seems to be wrong..
Yannis[flytampa]
Posts: 73

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by Yannis[flytampa] » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:58 am

Not the full truth.. exactly. Follow the instructions of my first post. I suggest first, to deactivate xEurope for a while, to see how the scenery actually and normally looks.
psilo
Posts: 21

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:02 am

now only flytampa is active. now i see textured roads, but still now "mapped" (i dont know a better english expression) roads on which traffic is simulated.

i will now start added more of my custom addons to find out, why the ortho layer included with your addon was kicked out (there was no other ortho scenery for the area active..)

please confirm what i now see is the full scope of the extension:
withroads.JPG
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Yannis[flytampa]
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Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by Yannis[flytampa] » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:04 am

is the Heraklion's overlays folder active? just above Heraklion's photoreal folder in the .ini file?
psilo
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Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:10 am

just doing a fresh reinstall and will manually verify in the .ini then... perhaps the extension doesnt like linked folders?? (had others with that problem in the past). normally i put my files in folders outside xp11 custom scenery folder and then just put a link there..

i post an update as soon as i reinstalled.
psilo
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Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:15 am

ROADS after REINSTALL:
roads_after_reinstall.JPG
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Current INI (you see most other things are DISABLED). I will manually clean the ini from EVERYTHING except heraklion now.. but i doubt it will make any difference

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psilo
Posts: 21

Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:22 am

Remaining INI:

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still no effect.. i will now kick out all my plugins also..
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psilo
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Re: XEurope compatibility

Post by psilo » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:27 am

I am seeing road traffic on the "orthoed" road now, after complete plugin removal.. perhaps i did not notice before.
is that the way it should look like?
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will put plugins now back in step by step.
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